{"id":23744,"date":"2025-10-26T11:40:06","date_gmt":"2025-10-26T19:40:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/?p=23744"},"modified":"2025-10-26T11:40:06","modified_gmt":"2025-10-26T19:40:06","slug":"great-circles-finding-the-shortest-distance-between-any-two-places-and-the-failure-of-ai","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/blog\/2025\/10\/26\/great-circles-finding-the-shortest-distance-between-any-two-places-and-the-failure-of-ai\/","title":{"rendered":"Great Circles: Finding the Shortest Distance Between any Two Places \u2013 and the Failure of AI"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(This is the seventh post in a series aimed at helping parents home-school their children.)<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As was noted in the previous post, hemispheres are created by conceptually slicing a globe through its center. The dividing line between the two hemispheres forms a \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Great_circle\">great circle<\/a>,\u201d meaning that it goes around the globe\u2019s circumference. The Equator is thus a great circle, as is any line of longitude, such as the Prime Meridian, combined the line of longitude on the opposite side of the world (longitude will be covered in detail in a later lesson). If you tie a string snugly around any sphere, you can move it into any number of positions, all of which are great circles. On the globe, lines of latitude other than the equator \u201cgo around the world\u201d in one sense, but they do not go around its circumference and are therefore not great circles (latitude will also be covered in detail in a later lesson). The most significant practical aspect of a great circle is in finding the shortest route between any two places on Earth, as it always follows the course of a great circle.<\/p>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_23745\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-23745\" style=\"width: 1024px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Diagram-of-a-Great-Circle-scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-23745 size-large\" src=\"http:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Diagram-of-a-Great-Circle-1024x611.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"611\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Diagram-of-a-Great-Circle-1024x611.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Diagram-of-a-Great-Circle-300x179.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Diagram-of-a-Great-Circle-768x458.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Diagram-of-a-Great-Circle-1536x917.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Diagram-of-a-Great-Circle-2048x1222.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Diagram-of-a-Great-Circle-1320x788.jpg 1320w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-23745\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Diagram of a Great Circle<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The concept of the great circle helps solve a seeming mystery. When people fly from the west coast of the United States to Europe, they often expect to travel in an eastward direction, as Europe is located to the east. It certainly looks like that would be the most direct route on a typical world map. As a result, first-time travelers to Europe can be surprised to find themselves flying far to the north, going over the icecap of Greenland. But you can easily see why a flight would take this path by looking at a globe or a globe-view map. A website called <a href=\"https:\/\/www.flightroutes.com\"><em>Flight Routes<\/em> <\/a>has an excellent article, \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.flightroutes.com\/great-circle-routes\">Shortest flight path \u2013 great circle routes<\/a>,\u201d that has some useful maps on this topic, such as those posted below.<\/p>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_23746\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-23746\" style=\"width: 1024px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Los-Angeles-to-Dubai-Great-Circle-Route.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-23746 size-large\" src=\"http:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Los-Angeles-to-Dubai-Great-Circle-Route-1024x646.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"646\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Los-Angeles-to-Dubai-Great-Circle-Route-1024x646.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Los-Angeles-to-Dubai-Great-Circle-Route-300x189.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Los-Angeles-to-Dubai-Great-Circle-Route-768x485.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Los-Angeles-to-Dubai-Great-Circle-Route-1536x969.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Los-Angeles-to-Dubai-Great-Circle-Route-2048x1292.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Los-Angeles-to-Dubai-Great-Circle-Route-1320x833.jpg 1320w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-23746\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Los Angeles to London Great Circle Route<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/p>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_23747\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-23747\" style=\"width: 1024px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Los-Angeles-to-Dubai-Route-on-Conventional-Map.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-23747 size-large\" src=\"http:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Los-Angeles-to-Dubai-Route-on-Conventional-Map-1024x672.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"672\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Los-Angeles-to-Dubai-Route-on-Conventional-Map-1024x672.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Los-Angeles-to-Dubai-Route-on-Conventional-Map-300x197.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Los-Angeles-to-Dubai-Route-on-Conventional-Map-768x504.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Los-Angeles-to-Dubai-Route-on-Conventional-Map-1536x1007.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Los-Angeles-to-Dubai-Route-on-Conventional-Map-2048x1343.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Los-Angeles-to-Dubai-Route-on-Conventional-Map-1320x866.jpg 1320w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-23747\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Los Angeles to London Great Circle on Conventional Map<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Even experienced travelers may be surprised to learn that the most direct route from Los Angeles to Dubai does not pass over Greenland but rather goes to its north. I certainly was. But as the <em>Flight Routes <\/em>maps posted below shows, this is indeed the path of a great circle.<\/p>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_23748\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-23748\" style=\"width: 1024px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Los-Angeles-Dubai-Route-on-Mercator-Map.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-23748 size-large\" src=\"http:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Los-Angeles-Dubai-Route-on-Mercator-Map-1024x638.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"638\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Los-Angeles-Dubai-Route-on-Mercator-Map-1024x638.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Los-Angeles-Dubai-Route-on-Mercator-Map-300x187.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Los-Angeles-Dubai-Route-on-Mercator-Map-768x479.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Los-Angeles-Dubai-Route-on-Mercator-Map-1536x957.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Los-Angeles-Dubai-Route-on-Mercator-Map-2048x1277.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Los-Angeles-Dubai-Route-on-Mercator-Map-1320x823.jpg 1320w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-23748\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Los Angeles to Dubai Great Circle Route on Mercator Map<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/p>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_23750\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-23750\" style=\"width: 1024px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/LA-Dubai-scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-23750 size-large\" src=\"http:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/LA-Dubai-1024x610.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"610\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/LA-Dubai-1024x610.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/LA-Dubai-300x179.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/LA-Dubai-768x458.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/LA-Dubai-1536x915.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/LA-Dubai-2048x1220.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/LA-Dubai-1320x786.jpg 1320w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-23750\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Great Circle Route from Los Angeles to Dubai<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When playing around with a string and a globe, I was also surprised to see that a great circle route from Seattle to Mombasa (in Kenya) passes over Greenland. At least this is how it seemed in my simple experiment, as I could not be sure that my string was stretched as tautly as possible and thus followed the most direct path. I decided to test this finding with artificial intelligence (AI), using Grok because of its ability to quickly generate graphs and other images. What I learned was that in this instance, AI \u2013 or at least Grok \u2013 delivers nothing but artificial idiocy. Not only does it have no knowledge of a \u201cgreat circle route,\u201d but it apparently cannot even place Mombasa or Seattle in their correct locations. One of the maps that it produced put Mombasa just off the coast of the border between DR Congo and Angola, and the other placed it in the middle of the South Atlantic. The depiction of Hawaii in the second map is especially amusing. This experience makes me wonder if AI is in general poorly equipped to handle mapping questions and exercises.<\/p>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_23751\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-23751\" style=\"width: 1024px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Seattle-to-Mombasa-Route-on-a-Globe.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-23751 size-large\" src=\"http:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Seattle-to-Mombasa-Route-on-a-Globe-1024x813.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"813\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Seattle-to-Mombasa-Route-on-a-Globe-1024x813.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Seattle-to-Mombasa-Route-on-a-Globe-300x238.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Seattle-to-Mombasa-Route-on-a-Globe-768x610.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Seattle-to-Mombasa-Route-on-a-Globe-1536x1219.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Seattle-to-Mombasa-Route-on-a-Globe-1320x1048.jpg 1320w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Seattle-to-Mombasa-Route-on-a-Globe.jpg 2008w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-23751\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Seattle to Mombasa Great Circle Route on a Globe<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/p>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_23752\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-23752\" style=\"width: 1024px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Grok-Map-of-Seatle-to-Mombasa-Great-Circle-Route.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-23752 size-large\" src=\"http:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Grok-Map-of-Seatle-to-Mombasa-Great-Circle-Route-1024x660.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"660\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Grok-Map-of-Seatle-to-Mombasa-Great-Circle-Route-1024x660.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Grok-Map-of-Seatle-to-Mombasa-Great-Circle-Route-300x193.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Grok-Map-of-Seatle-to-Mombasa-Great-Circle-Route-768x495.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Grok-Map-of-Seatle-to-Mombasa-Great-Circle-Route-1536x990.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Grok-Map-of-Seatle-to-Mombasa-Great-Circle-Route-2048x1321.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Grok-Map-of-Seatle-to-Mombasa-Great-Circle-Route-1320x851.jpg 1320w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-23752\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Absurd Grok AI Map of a Great Circle Route from Seattle to Mombasa<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(This is the seventh post in a series aimed at helping parents home-school their children.) As was noted in the previous post, hemispheres are created by conceptually slicing a globe through its center. The dividing line between the two hemispheres forms a \u201cgreat circle,\u201d meaning that it goes around the globe\u2019s circumference. The Equator is [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":12,"featured_media":23752,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"default","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"set","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[4549,4101],"tags":[4720,4719],"class_list":["post-23744","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-article-grid","category-geographical-education","tag-ai-mapping","tag-grok"],"geo":null,"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.0 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Great Circles: Finding the Shortest Distance Between any Two Places \u2013 and the Failure of AI - GeoCurrents<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.geocurrents.info\/blog\/2025\/10\/26\/great-circles-finding-the-shortest-distance-between-any-two-places-and-the-failure-of-ai\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Great Circles: Finding the Shortest Distance Between any Two Places \u2013 and the Failure of AI - GeoCurrents\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"(This is the seventh post in a series aimed at helping parents home-school their children.) 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